5 Bitter Pills to Swallow RE: Agentic AI

June 5, 2025

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Everyone’s talking about agentic AI—but what are we actually building? In this episode, Oliver Rochford and Alex unpack five bitter pills security teams need to swallow about the current state of “agents.”

Most aren’t autonomous, many are mislabeled, and flashy wrappers can’t hide weak detections or bad data.

We dig into the hype, the gaps, and what real operational maturity looks like. If you're duct-taping GPT-4 to your SOC and hoping for magic, this one’s for you.

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Alex Hurtado
Detection Dispatch Host, Anvilogic
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Oliver Rochford
Author & Startup Advisor
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5 Bitter Pills to Swallow RE: Agentic AI w/ Oliver Rochford